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High School Drug Searches
« on: December 07, 2008, 05:10:19 AM »
What is your opinion on high school drug searches?  And by this I mean searches that are conducted without reasonable and probable grounds to do so.  Do you think a school has a right to check lockers and whatnot?


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Re: High School Drug Searches
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2009, 04:14:57 AM »
There's a lot of debate on this in the media and political circles as well as PTAs, no doubt. Since Justice Fortas, in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, Justice Fortas said that "it can hardly be argued that either students or teachers shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate. " Lest I be accused of misapplying Fortes' words, I'll say that the mindset might work for 4rth Amendment claims too. The schools will argue that they have a right to ensure the safety of the entire student body and they would be right but since you're talking about students being searched without reasonable suspicion, then I think "protecting the student body" isn't a good enough reason to search anyone without due cause. It's often said that school prepares our young for democracy (snort) but given that a lot of schools seem to function more like authoritarian dictatorships, I don't find that claim convincing. If they want to prepare the young for democracy as they say they do, then perhaps school should be more democratic. 

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Re: High School Drug Searches
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2009, 02:23:38 AM »
High school is no doubt better than elementary as far as the democratic aspect goes, for obvious reasons.  At least that's how I felt going through them.  Of course, it's more the order upheld in a classroom than the actual work being given to students.

I can draw parallels between the locker checks and those programs they do with police searching for alcohol without reason.  I can certainly understand some reasons for it, but at the same time you have to be wary of the precedent being set there.


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Re: High School Drug Searches
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2009, 03:23:37 AM »
I mean it could be one thing to say "okay, here in this school we search for drugs/booze, here's the full disclosure". I just think it's another thing entirely if they just do it without any justifiable cause for doing so.

Me, I experienced school in the behaviorist model. It drove me mad.

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Re: High School Drug Searches
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 03:04:42 AM »
Interestingly, it's always the catholic schools in our area that seem to have the problems with drugs, lol.  The school I went to in that sense was pretty good, although no doubt there's always going to be students who get away with things.

Of course, I never would have had a problem because I literally didn't put anything in my locker.  It was just space with a lock on it, lol.  And yet, I would have been annoyed if they just checked without a justifiable reason.


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